Absolutely ridiculous and I'm not been gonna debate further than this. The lightsaber is an extension of the Jedi or Sith’s active force wall. Absolutely ridiculous and I'm not been gonna debate further than this. Dooku being near equals to Yoda also puts him near Vader’s level. Everything to do with active and passive force walls, I have already addressed in my previous post. Active force defenses are much stronger than passive. During their fateful duel, the two appeared to be evenly matched, with Ahsoka managing to even damage Vader's mask with a well-placed strike. Tie 0% . Vader all rounds. Awesome. @void_reborn: Well in that fight she was not tired, we saw no evidnece of her being tired she was not, her stamina is generally prety good, and he still one-shotted her and as i siad fact that he is lightyears above Maul and Dooku( meaning they are nothing to him) proves that futher, @void_reborn: Well in that fight she was not tired, we saw no evidnece of her being tired she was not, her stamina is generally prety good, and he still one-shotted her and as i siad fact that he is lightyears above Maul and Dooku( meaning they are nothing to him) proves that futher. Then, when the duel continued, she could hardly defend herself for more than 25 seconds before Vader was about to land a killing blow. Round 3: Team should be able to pull off the win with mid-high difficulty. It’s active force defenses that Jedi and Sith begin a duel with. No, but because saber absorbing prosperity absorbed electricity, He was on guard, energized, and ready. She is able to defeat the Trandosan Hunters during the Clone Wars with just hand-to-hand combat and the Force. The lightsaber is an extension of the Jedi or Sith’s active force wall. Because she was being pushed back? These quotes clearly state that Dooku and Yoda were near equals and what we saw on screen also agrees with that. @void_reborn@theoverdaddy@flolikeyou@richard96@lord_tenebrous@g_race@wolfrazer@thebluedragon20@eslay03@mattyboi@palpatine005@lord_god@willvalentine2@ct-5555@copper_warrior@red12789@anakinvader99@camilopezo@spinach@el_mago@darkthunder@poedameronsbutt@bayman007@alextheboss@reactor. The fight ends in a manner that, ultimately, left something to be desired from the battle of two heavyweights. But in legitimate "evidenced based" debates? Is this the longest lightsaber battle? Poll Star Wars (TCW/Rebels/LA): Darth Vader and Maul vs Kenobi and Ahsoka (12 votes) Kenobi and Ahsoka 17% . She probably was tired. He only needs to break their force defenses and he is doing that, he is confirmed to be lightyears above Maul and his feats prove that as well, Ashoka duel is addressed, as soon as he tired to use force he crub stomped her. Vader can win R2-3 if he abuses the Force. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. That’s not a one-shot. Maul gets Forced Choked and ragdolled around along with ahsoka. Philosophically, socratic logic is brilliant, bravo for understanding it/how to apply it. The armor he wears is not for protection. Thanks man! Click the button below to start this article in quick view. Battle. If the time requires it, she doesn’t seem to have any qualms with injuring her opponent. Given what she revealed on the Disney+ show, she's currently hunting down Grand Admiral Thrawn who was last seen with Ezra as their ship jumped to hyperspace at the end of Star Wars Rebels. Unless, you think Vader is “almost lightyears” above Yoda. RELATED: Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker Vs Avengers: Endgame - Which Ended Better? I was saying Maul and Ahsoka are near equals, which they are as shown by their duel. Season 7, Episode 10. Hooray! Thank you :). Feats also don’t put Vader “lightyears” above Maul. He is just slightly above Dooku and solidly better than Maul. 0. or example, Dooku shoots lightning at Kenobi in AoTC, and Kenobi deflects it. Especially when they have a form advantage? if they are close sure they will not use force instantly but here they are not close. Seems pretty biased.". Never twisted your words for a second, just pointed out how you blatantly disregarded Ahsoka was caught off guard while you acknowledged Vader was. Tough for me to see Vader winning this tbh. With that being said though, do you not see 2 TPM Maul+ level fighters beating Vader? Adding Rebels Maul, who is her confirmed superior, gives them a decisive edge. Its not, Maul best quantifiable TK feat is thousands of times bellow Vaders, Dooku is not much better eiather, Vader stomps them by feats, the only way for Dooku to be close is scaling to Yoda, Sorry but i do not like speculations she showed no signs of being tired that is why i cannot assume that she was, I know but he should also win round 3 and 2, Maul is fodder, so its basically Vader vs Ashoka and he low difs. There’s not a single scene in canon that shows Vader abusing the force on an opponent that is near Ahsoka level unless he first breaks his or hers defenses. After all, even after Luke cut Vader's arm off, he still managed to defeat Palpatine, the strongest force user in the galaxy at that point. Maul is fodder, it was confirmed by canon soruce that Vader is lightyears above him in force and his feats show that as well, Vader can break his neck with a flick and then stomp Ashoka, he already one-shotted her in Rebels with single force push. Star Wars Rebels pitted Darth Vader against his former apprentice, Ahsoka Tano. Again, if they play smart and work together, they should take the small majority. 4) Team 6.5/10. Forum Posts. How is that a bad showing? I don't think saber forms matter anymore in canon. Using darkness, shadows and silhouettes to superb effect, Crimsonight presents a fictional confrontation between Anakin… I was going to challenge each of your points in greater detail. He’s not one shotting or easily breaking both of their defenses. Bonus: Moral are Off, how does the outcome change? Undeniably, Vader's abilities at a lightsaber are surpassed by few. Changed my mind. I appreciate the effort but I'm done here. ", Animation Director Rob Coleman's comment that Lucas wanted "an amazing clash between two ultimate masters of opposite sides of the Force," Pablo Hidalgo who says "The two Force warriors attempted to defeat each other with displays of telekinesis and other Force abilities, but they were too evenly matched" in Lightsabers 2010 & 2018, and Genndy Tartakovsky, who worked with George on the 2003 Clone Wars series, saying "Dooku is almost as powerful as Yoda himself.". Nope, it's prime Vader. Nothing suggests its exaggeration, his feats support it, Dooku is not near equal to Yoda, Yoda was holding back in their fight, in new Disney galaxy of adventures series Yoda literally laughs at him while he uses all his power in a blade lock, I was showing his feats don’t support that by scaling. Darth Vader (formerly known asAnakin Skywalker)was a Sith Lord who acted as the chief enforcer and apprentice of Darth Sidious, and the Supreme Commander of the Imperial Military. Description: Ahsoka Tano x Darth Vader is part of Movies Collection and its available for Desktop Laptop PC and Mobile Screen. They go and confront him at Coruscant. @eredin12: Eredin, can you give me the source for that Vader image? The lightsaber didn’t absorb it. R1: Team should win. ", "So you acknowledge that Ahsoka caught Vader off guard, but disregard that Vader caught Ahsoka off guard with the force push? The reason for this, though, is because Luke was the first person in years to touch Vader's heart, which weakened his connection to the Dark Side. And it's because Rebels Ahsoka already gave Vader a decent fight. "One of the things that [Geoge Lucas] and I sat down and had fairly lengthy discussions about was Ahsoka and Darth Vader. This fan made Death Battle features Ahsoka Tano and Galen Marek, both from the Star Wars series. In Clone Wars season 7, episode 9, "Old Friends Not Forgotten", the master and his apprentice reunite after months of her self-imposed exile. Vader is perhaps Maul's superior. Should the former Jedi land a strike, it would probably be superficial at best. I was showing his feats don’t support that by scaling. She then is able to lock him up again, only this time, you can see how his strikes are clearly staggering her, while he's just pounding away at her. The Duel. Seems pretty biased. As painful as Anakin's transformation into Darth Vader was for Ahsoka, knowing that a cherished mentor like Plo Koon stopped believing in her so easily must have felt worse. The lightsaber is a representation of a Jedi or Sith being on guard. Ahsoka and Maul’s fight scene, with the beautiful camera shots and … Vader wins Rounds 2 and loses Round 1. I am absolutely not saying that randomly having a lightsaber suddenly makes one able to withstand force abilities. Conditions: Each fighter is in their on-screen prime. We’ve been through this before. Vader oneshots Maul and then beats Ahsoka again. One cannot ragdoll or abuse an opponent in the force unless one first breaks their defenses. As a child, he managed to destroy a Trade Federation blockade singlehandedly. The only issue with that is that unless the opponent is severely less powerful those force abilities will rarely break his or hers active defenses. If this is Rebels Vader, the team thrashes. When enraged he can ragdoll an off-guard Palpatine decades before suited Vader was in his prime (similar to ROTS Yoda's feat) and as of Rebels, fighting normally, he can already force push Ahsoka Tano after wearing her down a bit. That is its definition, it was stomp. @void_reborn: He did not wear her down, she showed no sign of being tired and Vader one-shotted her with force first time he tried to use it, while her force push did nothing to him, that is how close in force they are, @void_reborn: He did not wear her down, she showed no sign of being tired and Vader one-shotted her still with force first time he tried to use, while her force push did nothing to him, that is how close in force they are. Growing older only made him one of the Clone War's greatest pilots around. Absolutely. 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And Vader doesn't have feats required stomp either one of them in the force, let alone both of them. We both know that didn’t happen. @w4nkdestroyer: @void_reborn: the saber forms aren't canon, right? He did not one-shot nor stomp. Wrong Maul was amped by nexus and Ashoka was weakend by it, Filoni said by time of rebels only Vader and Palpatine can fight her, so that is wrong. Actually, that is exactly how canon works. I agree with this completely. Morals are On. I am going with the team, albeit narrowly. He’s not one shotting or easily breaking both of their defenses. "If you're referring to that "source" from a children's book as evidence of him being lightyears above them, then lol.". He doesn't confirm or deny that the two will duel anytime soon, but does admit they appear to be on something of a "collision course." I don’t think Vader is that much more powerful than Maul and Ahsoka. I'm just saying she was being worn down by his strength and Djem So. 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