can i ignore a parking charge notice in scotland

This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. What is…, Hi, you gave me advise previously which I used to get a Sheriff Officer to admit they had continued an…, Hi Gary It is common for Firms to put debts out for collection to one Firm for a while and…, Hello again, I now have a file with letters from 4 separate companies, I am unsure whether to write to…, Hi Yvonne Contact the Sheriff Officers and explain the mistake. This was because they called them “penalty” charges or “fines” and under the law of contract, punitive charges are not allowed. That would mean disputing the level of the charge with them and waiting to see if they took you to Court and then defending the action on the basis you think the amount is punitive or excessive. So you could write to the Hospital if you parked on hospital land, or to the supermarket (especially if you have been in their shop spending money. Generally the principle about private parking fines is you have parked in a designated parking area, that had signs on display that tell you the terms of parking there (length of time etc.) It is common for Firms to put debts out for collection to one Firm for a while and if they don’t get paid, take it back, or sometimes be given it back. If you disable this cookie, we will not be able to save your preferences. Some NHS hospital car parks are free to use - but not all NHS car parks. You can read our full privacy policy here. Surprise surprise I got a ticket which I have so far ignored. The BPA don't get involved in individual complaints, but will investigate whether the code of practice was breached. This means that every time you visit this website you will need to enable or disable cookies again. Well I think you have grounds to challenge the Debt Collection Fees, as they are clearly in excess of what the sign says, so they have no contractual basis for charging £70. As far as I am aware Keeper’s Lisbility is not in force yet in Scotland. You can find out more about which cookies we are using or switch them off in settings. The cameras tell them she broke their rules, so they can fine her. They continue to send letters demanding I pay or they will take me to court. This means that for a binding contract to be formed between you and the landowner, the rules about where and when you can park and what charges apply must be displayed clearly throughout the car park (particularly at entrances). This means when you park your car on a private landowner’s land you can, in certain circumstances, be deemed to have entered into a contract with them. and if you breach the terms, you effectively either accept the terms of parking in that area and any charges that apply, including any charges if you breach the terms. Parking Charge Notices are not actually a fine. There is no way to say definitively how much it would add to the debt as it depends on a number of factors. Will the total be lots higher if court papers are actioned? The term should also state clearly the terms that you can park on the land or in the car park. Is there a time limit on firms within which they have to issue notice please? Another showed the boot of an adjacent car open in both photos, despite the timestamp in both photos being hours apart. There may be a private parking operator managing the facilities on behalf of the board. Where it isn’t, the police are responsible instead. There’s no specific legislation dealing with parking on private land in Scotland. Parking Firms should be part of one of two Parking Associations. Highview Parking is a private parking contractor, along with their sister company Ranger Services. If taken to court and he has to pay will it affect his credit rating? There are a number of possible arguments you could use, both during the appeal process or in Court. If there will be a service charge, it should state this and how much it will be. Before October 2012 the generally accepted advice was to ignore privately-issued parking tickets. A court may decide that you breached a contract with the parking operator and that you must pay the charges. They, therefore, then give it to another Firm. You may not also win. I know he should not have, I received a Penalty Charge Notice from Smart Parking, pay £40 within 28 days or this will increase to £70 if not paid. As I could find no car parking spaces where there was something suitable to lock my motorcycle to, I looked for an area where I would not be causing an obstruction, but where my motorcycle was secure. If you receive a County Court Claim from CEL, you should either pay it, or defend it. Below are two template letters to help you challenge a parking ticket for parking on private land. I entered the park about2.15 and got parked by 2.30 in a space vacated by another car. So no private firm should clamp your car. Thank you. A parking ticket for private land is called a Parking Charge Notice (PCN) – check your ticket for this wording. Like the BPA, it has a Code of Practice and you can make a complaint in a similar way. The International Parking Community (IPC) is another professional association for the parking industry. Should you be worried about Sheriff Officers? I would check the sign to see if it says that. Hi I’ve received a notice of debt recovery from an English bailiffs DCBL for a parking charge issued by UKPC in March 2019. It has no legal basis and cannot be enforced in law, Ignore post #2, that is a private parking company troll trying to spread disinformation. You can do so by…, HI I would like assistance to stop any arrestment and to give me breathing space, in order that I can…, Hi Donna I do recall you from before and I am glad you have had a partial refund. If it does progress that far, you could be liable for legal expenses also, and it could damage you credit rating. Penalty charge notice: Issued by local authorities if you park for too long or in an incorrect spot in a public area. Highview will have details of how you can appeal on their ticket. Hi. so if you had to park over a bay because of another driver’s parking (you may want to take a photograph as evidence); or if you were late back because of a disability, don’t be afraid to point this out. If you park in a non-designated area, it would depend on whether these parking signs cover those areas also. At most stages of the process, you have 28 days to pay or challenge your Penalty Charge Notice (PCN). Providing they are constituted properly, they are legally binding contracts. I have received a parking charge notice from euro car parks for my vehicle overstaying the maximum free parking time of 2 hours at the Interchange retail park at Ipswich, Suffolk on Sunday 25th August. The car park owner can take steps to enforce any of these rules if broken. Many thanks for your prompt reply and for confirming my next course of action. DRIVERS in Scotland will be slapped with fines for parking in private firms as a loophole that has helped them dodge charges is set to close. Parking Charge Notices are the result of a parking infringement on private land or in a car park which is operated by private organisations on behalf of the landowner, and are not enforced by the local highways authority or the police. They are likely to ask you who was driving the car at the time. This is usually done by displaying those terms and conditions on a sign before you drive onto the land. What stands these notices apart from those issued by the Police and Traffic Wardens, is they are not issued for committing an offence, but for parking somewhere that you are normally allowed to park, but have done so in a way that breaks the terms and conditions of being able to do so. We actually never seen the signs, also the chip shop should have told us to put our car registration number into a box on the wall and that would have dealt with it. Ensure the times are correct and she has re-entered within the prohibited times. Give us feedback, Copyright © 2019 Citizens Advice. We are using cookies to give you the best experience on our website. Hi my son got a parking charge notice for £60 while parked at the university he attends he didn’t pay it as he thought it was a scam he has now received a letter from a debt collector demanding payment of £130 to be paid within 14 days or court proceedings may happen -he is a student and doesn’t have money to pay-what do you advise? If a ticket machine was out of order, then photograph it. At the moment there is no written piece of law in Scotland dealing with private parking charges and they are instead based on the law of contract. Advice can vary depending on where you live. If the parking company is a member of the British Parking Association, appeals can be made to Parking on Private Land Appeals (POPLA). However, also tell them her partner was a customer. This would mean that they are charging over £7/minute. You can also report their behaviour to the landowner. How do Parking Companies know who you are? Pub folklore says never enter into communications as this is seen as an admission of guilt. This means they will have rules about how you appeal a parking fine and, if unsuccesful at the first step, appeal it to the Association. Sometimes if the person has a disability, you could write to the store and ask they waive it, or ask they waive it this time, if your wife has spent alot in the store. Previously appeals to POPLA was not possible, if you were in Scotland or Northern Ireland, but this change on the 1st May 2019. I would say first of all the folklore you refer to is out of date and dangerous. Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. So very much enforcible and not a scam. I obviously don’t know all the details, so I am not sure the Chip Shop owner can do anything. They may do this, but its probably at their discretion, so you cannot force them. I would take a photo for use in any appeal. If you don’t agree that you broke any of the rules, you might want to challenge the landowner or parking operator. The cookies that Advice Scotland use are set by third party providers, who use them to supply us with statistics about the site. Your email address will not be published. Kind regards, Gary. You appear to have parked in a non-designated parking area of Braehead. If there was no sign, or it was not easily visible, you may have grounds for appealing the ticket. I would say at least £2-300 if they raise just one action, but don’t hold me to that. However, the question is when does a Service Charge become a penalty? Wheel clamping has been banned in Scotland since 1992. You might get a ticket on your windscreen or in the post. No. I have looked ParkMaven up and it appears to me they are a software provider for Car Parks, so I am not sure if they are actually the people who have sent you the charge. Thanks for any help/advice you can offer. Its just a risk he had to take and ultimately it’s down to the Sheriff what expenses he awards, though generally if you lose and the other Party had the right to raise the action then usually they will be awarded. My mother’s Blue Badge was clearly displayed on the window of my car and so we thought we were parked legally. They cannot just add on penalties etc, there must be a legal basis to them, so they must have been stated on the T’s and C’s on the sign. If it was issued by the police or council workers, it’s called a penalty charge notice. I am disabled and have a blue badge on the car. I think she needs to appeal the decision and also request evidence. You don’t have to identify who it was that parked the car. Surly this is enough to challenge fine ? Also bear in mind there are strict time limits you need to adhere to when appealing, so don’t delay. Some argue you should just ignore them, but if they do locate you, they can still take you to Court. If a parking company is a member of a trade association, like the British Parking Association (BPA) or the International Parking Community (IPC), you can also use their procedures to complain about the parking ticket. Last Minute Deal to Save Glasgow Advice Agencies,, The type face should also be of an easily readable font size, again not too small. You should first contact the parking operator, giving your reasons for challenging the ticket and asking them to withdraw it. To be part of the Approved Operators Scheme, the Firm must be registered with the British Parking Association or the International Parking Community, both of which are trade bodies. Parking tickets on private land aren't a criminal matter. I cannot give you the odds on them raising an action, other than to say they do, so I would not encourage anyone to be complacent about them doing so, as it can add significantly to what is owed and if a CCJ or a Scottish Decree is granted for payment of a sum of money and it isn’t paid within 30 days, it can damage his credit rating. I received a Parking Charge Notice with issue date of 26th March 2020 for over staying in private car park in Glasgow on 9th March 2020. Woman must pay £24,000 in charges after ignoring parking notices. They should still be clearly visible and at a height, font that allows them to be read. Ultimately, they could take it to court and you will need to decide at that point if you wish to defend it or not. In Scotland and Northern Ireland you can choose to ignore a parking notice. This sounds like a Parking Charge Notice, from a private firm. You might get a parking ticket on private land from the owner or a company employed to manage the car park if you: There may have been signs displaying the rules for using the car park. So, unless the keeper disclosed the name of the driver (intentionally or not), it was difficult for the parking company to take legal action to … If they don’t this may be a case of trespass, which is a civil wrong. I don’t recall receiving any previous notices from UKPC relating to this? It will automatically process the charge, as technically the rules have been broken. If the sign was not very visible, or too high up or obstructed, so you could not read it, you may want to take a photo and send it to them, as part of your appeal. He would not be able to appeal as multiple fines. This has to happen and usually will contain transitional provisions which state when they apply from (so they may not apply to tickets issued prior to their commencement). It is an unregulated business although many operators are members of an accredited trade association, such as the British Parking Association (BPA) or the International Parking Community (IPC). However, I would say this firm may well take you to Court and you would have to defend the action or they would likely get a court order against you. They could also get their legal expenses, which could significantly increase the amount you owe. “They make no reference to the Freedom of Protections Act.” You can send them a letter to say you dispute the debt and ask they return it to the original creditor to ask they provide proof it is owed. If they are Members of a professional body, they may allow late appeals, but there is normally a charge and you need to provide a good reason for not appealing within the set times. They are a service charge that private landowners and car park owners can charge when you park on their land. Hope it works out. Since the incident in early July 2020, I have received 7 letters over a 6 month period; 2 from Gemini Parking Solutions followed by 3 from Debt Recovery Plus, folllowed by 1 from Zenith Collections and finally a letter from CST Law dated 7/1/21 and giving me until 21/1/21 to pay the fine. After 5 years the debt, even if it is recoverable, is legally unenforceable because of prescription law. For example, you may have stayed over the time you paid for in a car park because you were taken ill. For example, you may need extra time because you're older, disabled, pregnant or have a very young baby. Scots motorists have been using a loophole in the syste… You are expected to ensure there are no restrictions when you park, so the onus is on you. Interestingly, some people say Mcdonald’s are actually a real estate firm that sells food, rather than a fast food firm that owns property. However, since then there has been a UK Supreme Court which takes the view they are not penalties, but lawful service charges, so ignoring them is dangerous, in that not only can these charges be legally enforced in Court, but they can increase over time. As for the amount, it seems excessive. They normally do. Previously it was believed that the charges private firms charged did not have to be paid, as they were not legally enforceable. They will most likely also be members of a private parking body and must follow their codes of practice and you may have rights to a late appeal to those bodies also. They are. I would try and find out who is the Company that has given you the ticket. It will, therefore, damage your Credit Score. But when it comes to fighting such charges, he is in the minority. There is a reputable presumption you were driving the car, as it is your car. I have been isued one by OPCOA IN what is a free parking area but has now pay and display m/c's covered and not in operation. I would not expect to be charged if having read I then decided to leave. A receipt can help to show she was in the store at the right time and was shopping. Three times we were there and no one told us this. The fine can be taken to Court with a view to obtaining a Court Order. If signs are misleading or deceptive, they might breach your consumer rights. Your feedback helps us make our digital services better. If they take it to Court, which they can do, and you rely on such a defence, the Court will likely require you to provide that information. Parking Charge Notices can be challenged and should if you think they are wrong, as they can be enforced through the Courts. That’s not always to say they will go to Court, but it is an option. Just before Christmas I was travelling from England to Scotland when we stopped at a service station for a break at a service station just over the border just before midnight. If you remove the clamp yourself you may find yourself charged with vandalism. Paying immediately is seen as an admission of guilt and you cannot then subsequently appeal. The park is covered by CCTV. We have now receive the first of what I presume will be 3 fines. Also in terms of settling the debt, so it doesn’t affect his credit rating, this isn’t automatic and there is a procedure which is explained on this page on the Scottish Courts website which deals with Money Judgements and Certificates of Satisfaction. Please enable Strictly Necessary Cookies first so that we can save your preferences! The signs stating the rules must be clear enough that no reasonable person could claim that they weren’t aware of them. Any signs that clearly display rules for using the car park give you the terms of the contract. His local Citizen Advice Bureau or Student Advice Service may be able to help him or the law school in many universities also run free law clinics. More information can be obtained on going to Court by visting the Scottish Court Website. Hello, Can you please advise what constitutes a fair & reasonable parking fine. To challenge a ticket, you can follow the steps below. The allowable time is 90 minutes, and the timestamps on the evidence they have included on their PCN shows that the car was in the car park for 14 minutes longer than this. In short, no. Charging you a penalty because of this could be unlawful discrimination. If he is in Scotland, it would be the Sheriff Court, using Simple Procedure. I suppose I would take a commonsense sort of approach. Hi, my partner has a letter from debt collection agency from a fine in March 2018. Ultimately, it is for a court to decide if the charge is reasonable or not; but it should be borne in mind, if a challenge is made on these grounds and unsuccessful, not only may you have to pay the charge, but also the other party’s legal costs. However, I would argue it is still worthwhile making them as, they may also be defences that could be made in front of a Judge if an action is raised in Court. This website uses Google Analytics to collect anonymous information such as the number of visitors to the site, and the most popular pages. Private companies can issue parking tickets and may call them Parking Charge Notices, but they are not the same as the Penalty Charge Notice. They can be legally enforced and it is these Firm’s business to do so. You may want to read both before deciding which one applies to you: If a parking operator rejects your informal appeal, you may be able to make a formal appeal. 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